The Overnightscape 823: Cineplex Odeon Revival In Miniature (10/5/11)
- October 6th, 2011
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1:44:14 – Visited the 9/11 Memorial, conspiracy theories, home computer, occult symbolism of the Freedom Tower, WPIX, numerology, gods, deer, Occupy Wall Street, my theory of what is going on in the world, visions, reincarnation, self-aggrandizement, flying saucers, robots, genetic engineering, warring gods, civilization, souls, decadence, misinterpretation, rules of living, anarchy, the process of visiting the 9/11 memorial, security screening, questioning the worth of some modernist art, Willem de Kooning, ArtRenewal.org, the concept of abstraction, The Emperor’s New Clothes, public space, train wrecks, the memorial fountains, negative energy, nature of the memorial, the defunct Cineplex Odeon movie theater chain, The Unauthorized Star Wars Story (1999), Bib Fortuna, Biggs Darklighter, Boba Fett, mini movie theater concept, Times Square at dusk, various defunct brands, Nuprin, Jean Nate, wifi problems, Brim, The Bangles, GMC Jimmy, free South Park coffee, coffee backpacks, iPhone 4S announcement, Siri, talking to your computer, Cyc, Bergen Town Center (formerly Bergen Mall), Whole Foods, liquor, saag paneer, Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip, the big idea, Pop-Up Video, question of the day, from buzz to bust, and wax Dracula. F1751
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Wow, great episode, there is a new film coming out called immortals which is something similar to what your talking about, one thing I think would be difficult to factor in within that theory is that if the gods where so advanced then why would they need raw materials at all, wouldn’t they have reached the stage of alchemy or in today’s terminology, a type of nano tech where we just programme molecules to make what we want. For example manufacturing different parts may not even be necessary because it would all be built in to the skin and bones of the structure. Also a lot of the quotes you refer to such as the bible say that the gods came from the sky, sometimes called the Elohim which is the literal translation this that from the sky come. So maybe the gods did not come from this planet or system. Another thing you mention is that the gods are still in control, if so where do they control from if they are deceased? From the spirit dimension? Or where they always in another realm?
Gee Frank you’re losing me with this anti 20th century art stuff. For someone who has such a deep relationship to contemporary film, music and the graphic arts of the 20C I find it hard for you to separate and condemn visual art from this period. (Pop culture was coined after the 1960′s art movement!) Dumping on art is too easy. Having trouble with de Kooning? perhaps you’ll enjoy Robert Rauschenberg he famously made art by erasing a de Kooning. Art Renewal is a a goofy anti art site.. It’s the equivalent of someone arguing against the jazz, blues and rock revolutions of the 20 C for the more “beautiful” classical music motifs of a century ago. I mean it’s an argument but is this really where you stand? Not from what I’ve heard over the past 823 episodes.
Sarah has an opening at the end of the month I’ll be sure to get her to invite you and D. All the best. Phil
The art thing is a complicated issue. As I said in the show, I am very intrigued by this whole “20th Century Art” thing – and I do love going to MoMA and seeing everything they have there. But I have to say, I have always had a discomfort about a lot of art – thoughts which I suppressed when I was younger. I love all forms of pop culture and embrace fully comic books, video games, novels, movies, TV shows, rock, electronica, ragtime, etc. etc. And there is a lot of art I love. But when it comes to the more “abstract” stuff – I have to say I have always felt it was kind of a joke – it left me cold. I always felt there was something wrong with it. People don’t read books written like “dfalkjhf alfjhk 98yad98h sdi9ufys98sdf jadf08jadf 0pa9dfu apfap 0a9dfu “, and don’t listen to music with no musicality (except of WFMU, of course). So where exactly has this obsession with meaningless art come from? I can understand it being popular for a year or two as some kind of commentary or something – but it seems insane that it’s gone on this long. Maybe… the whole thing is a longform piece of performance art… where over the course of 100+ years people go along with it… “No soap, radio” on a grand scale…??
Do you think there’s a counter argument that could convince me otherwise? I’m open to hearing it.
Also check out mono theism vs polytheism
Hi Frank, this was an interesting show especially since you spoke about Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. I have recently finished watching the complete series on Netflix Streaming. I was going to recommend you do the same however after checking the show is no longer available on streaming but only on disks. I don’t know if you have an account but I think it would be worth the rental.
I would agree with you that the show lacked a commitment to the subject and became a free for all for all sorts of political agenda. The parts that did address the show production issues were interesting as was the character development. While it is not a must see program I would say it is definitely worth the time to watch
Keep up the good work Frank, Mike from Green Bay.